Curse

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

This has been posted on several threads, thought it would be easier to have it in one place to discuss.

If mods feel this is repetitive, please Merge or Delete.

Thanks to Dont Mess WithMe for the links and GloryFox for typing these out.

SPOILER WARNING

Here's a list of possible Title Track skills taken from a flickr page:

Norn Title Track skills: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1048799054&size=l

Asura Title Track skills: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1047943095&size=l

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

I hope this helps you Mordakai

Asura skills
Air of Superiority 5 __ 20
Asuran Scan 5 2 5
Mental Block 10 1 15
Mindbender 10 1 24
Pain Inverter 10 1 16
Radiation Field 10 2 12
Smooth Criminal 10 2 20
Summon Ice Imp 10 3 60
Summon Mursaat 10 3 60
Summon Naga Shaman 10 3 60
Summon Ruby Djinn 10 3 60
Technobabble 15 1 14

Norn Skills
"Dodge This!" 4A __ __
"Finish Him!" 10 __ 30
"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20
"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30
"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12
"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10
A touch of Guile 10 __ 14
Club of a Thousand Bears 5 __ 12
Feel no Pain 5 __ 15
Raven Blessing 10 __ 120
Ursan Blessing 10 __ 60
Volfen Blessing 10 __ 60

As these are PvE only Title Track Skills, I don't think Heroes will be able to use them, as they technically don't "unlock" on your account (if they work like the Sunspear skills). Only the character actually getting the skill will have access to it.

That's not to say these won't be overpowered or unbalanced. As we see from the Kurzick/Luxon skills and Sunspear PvE only skills, Anet is no longer concerned with "balance" in PvE.

EXAMPLE: The Asuran skill screenshot shows Asuran Scan 5 en 2 ct 5 rc Hex Spell
For 12 seconds, your attacks against this foe deal an additional 75% damage. (italic numbers variable)

(which is fine by me, BTW. As long as these skills are attainable through "casual" play like Sunspear, and not like the dreaded Kurzick/Luxon Title grindfest.)

My thoughts are that the Raven, Ursan, and Volfen Blessings are the Norn Transform Skills. I get this idea from an image of a Raven in one of the shots http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1047945257&size=l

There are also videos of players summoning Djinn, Ice Imps and Mursaat so I'm pretty sure the Summon spells are legit as well.

Dreikki · Aug 10, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää!

Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.

Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last?

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreikki

"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää!

Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.

Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last?

No, the only spell with any details is Asuran Scan.

Also, keep in mind, this is not by any means final. Obviously, this could all change before release.

It's fun to speculate though... Maybe the summoned creatures last until they are killed (and you can only have one at a time).

Another interesting note: Why does Raven Blessing have such a long recharge? (120 seconds)

dsnesnintendo · Aug 10, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

lol guy has both kurzick and luxon skills
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z"

seeing those summons i know which coast im going to

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsnesnintendo

lol guy has both kurzick and luxon skills
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z"

From what I gather, this was a sneak peak for journalists. Anet obviously used cheat codes: he mentions using a rez command a lot to finish a mission.

Absinth187 · Aug 10, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

The skills have been listed on the official wiki since before mmognation posted the images on flickr I believe.

Check 'em out: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...e_North_skills

I had the impression that the "birdie" pic was of a mini pet, but since he did say he was transforming it makes sense. Goes along with Ursan = bear and Volfen = wolf.

EDIT: Okay, maybe the blessings aren't the actual Norn form skills. Saw "Totem of Man, Totem of the Bear, Totem of the Wolf, etc." in another thread where someone hacked the gw.dat file.

wajir0 · Aug 10, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

oh wow

speechless.....

only heros can use those skills???

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by wajir0

oh wow

speechless.....

only heros can use those skills???

No, no.... only Characters can use these skills (if they work like the Sunspear skills). In Nightfall, when you earn Sunspear skills, they do not "unlock" on your account. They are simply there on your Skill list to chose from.

So, in other words, you can't use them in PvP and Heros won't have access to them.

But you certainly will!

wajir0 · Aug 10, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

ahhh

crystal clear thx

oh man (raven blessing) always wanted to be a Soj Raven

GloryFox · Aug 10, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Thank you Mordakai for moving the skills information to a separate thread.

Quote:

posted by ME
"Dodge This!" 4A __ __
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20
"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30
"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12
"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10

I'm guessing that these are shouts because of the quotes. From the sound of the skills I'll make some speculations.
NOTE the information below is ALL SPECULATION! NOT FACTUAL IN ANY WAY!

"Dodge This!" 4A __ __ Shout: Next ranged attack skill flies at 3x normal speed and does "x" amount of damage to moving foes? At first I thought it might be something that would be unblockable but there is Anthem of Guidance already.

"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30 Shout: Affects all party members in earshot Your next attack skill results in Deep wound plus "x" amount of damage? Sounds almost overpowered but so are most PvE skills. A party wide Eviscerate perhaps?

"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20 Shout: You gain "x" amount of health and are healed for "x" amount of health as well? My personal guess is a combination of Endure pain and self healing at the same time?

"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30 Shout: Personal affect you gain "x" pips of regeneration and are healed for "x" amount of damage for 30 seconds? This might be a PvE only version of a Whammo's best friend?

"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12 Shout: All enemies within earshot suffer from Weakness for "x" duration? There will already be a shout that will cause weakness that is a PvX skill. This particular skill sounds like a Warrior version of Anthem of Weariness but no attack skill required.

"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10 Shout: All enemies in the area are crippled for "x" duration? Seriously I expect this shout to affect the enemies movement in some fashion.

Since this is the end of GW1 I expect ANET to let us have some real power within the game.

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Thank you Mordakai for moving the skills information to a separate thread.

No, thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Since this is the end of GW1 I expect ANET to let us have some real power within the game.

I agree. Summoning Mursaat, Transforming to a Bear, +75% dam. to an opp... these are going to be awesome skills.

The only downside is that the other skills in the game will be weak compared to these. I can foresee characters having an Elite, than nothing but PvE only skills filling up their bar.

And we have no clue what the Dwarf (Deldrimor Title Track) skills will be, or the Ebon Guard....

50 PvE only skills at all, and this is just 24 of them!

logan90 · Aug 10, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreikki

"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää!

Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.

Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last?

Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan90

Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.

LOL, fixed. Wishful thinking, I suppose.

Fixed typo in Technobabble as well.

Let me know if you see other errors.

GloryFox · Aug 10, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Quote:

posted by logan90
Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.

That would be my fault. Thank you for the correction.

Quote:

posted by Mordakai
The only downside is that the other skills in the game will be weak compared to these. I can foresee characters having an Elite, than nothing but PvE only skills filling up their bar.

I strongly disagree. I believe that many of the skills will sync better with some classes than others. For example the Summon skills are better for a Ritualist to cast than an Ele. Shouts would be better for Paragons than Hex spells. I think you will see about 5-10 PvE skills that seem to sync better overall with specific classes with an elite and at least 2-3 normal skills to supplement a specific build.

Some PvE skills will be fully situational like Ebon Battle Standard of Courage.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ebon_...ard_of_Courage

Overall I can't imagine dissing my normal skill options. Instead I can see using my normal skill to make a particular PvE skill stronger and more usable. For example: Save Yourselves + Aggressive Refrain + Focused Anger = + 100 armor on all your teammates but you 80%-100% of the time in combat. Yes Save Yourselves is a great PvE only skill but only because of the Paragon skills I use to supplement its effectiveness.

Absinth187 · Aug 10, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

And we have no clue what the Dwarf (Deldrimor Title Track) skills will be, or the Ebon Guard....

Well, we already know about Light of Deldrimor. There is also:

Deldrimor Title Track
Breath of the Great Dwarf - Skill. All party members are relieved of Burning and are healed for X Health. 10e_1/4c_15r

other possibilities
Stout-Hearted
Dwarven Stability
Black Powder Mine
Snow Storm
Great Dwarf Armor
Great Dwarf Weapon
Drunken Master
By Ural’s Hammer
Don’t Trip!
A Brawling Headbutt
Low Blow
Nosyt’s Bite
Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
Marked For Death
Haunted Ground
Alkar’s Concoction

and

Ebon Vanguard Title Track
Ebon Battle Standard of Courage - Skill. You plant an Ebon Battle Standard of Courage at your current location. For X seconds, non-Spirit allies in this area gain +Y armor and an additional +Z armor against Charr. 10e_1/4c_10r

other possibilities
Ebon Escape
Sneak Attack
Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom

GloryFox · Aug 10, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Quote:

posted by Absinth187
Deldrimor Title Track
Breath of the Great Dwarf - Skill. All party members are relieved of Burning and are healed for X Health. 10e_1/4c_15r

other possibilities
Stout-Hearted
Dwarven Stability
Black Powder Mine
Snow Storm
Great Dwarf Armor
Great Dwarf Weapon
Drunken Master
By Ural’s Hammer
Don’t Trip!
A Brawling Headbutt
Low Blow
Nosyt’s Bite
Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
Marked For Death
Haunted Ground
Alkar’s Concoction

There are a total of 14 Dwarf skills. Some of those skills I know for sure (factual sources, interviews, etc) will be Dwarf skills so lets separate what we know for sure from other speculation.
1 Breath of the Great Dwarf
2 Alkar’s Concoction
3 Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
4 Drunken Master (BTW I happen to know this skill only works when drunk.)
5 Great Dwarf Armor
6 Great Dwarf Weapon
7 Dwarven Stability
8 Black Powder Mine
9 Light of Deldrimor
10?
11?
12?
13?
14?

Lets see if the community can sort these out from what we know so far.

BTW some skill Names have been changed or will be changed so we might find some name Discrepancies. Just be aware of that.

Mordakai · Aug 10, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...e_North_skills

OK, so we have 100 Profession linked skills and 50 PvE only skills.

If we can establish what skills are Deldrimor, whatever is left unclaimed has to be Ebon.

Here's my guesses based on GloryFox and Absinth187's list:

Deldrimor Title Track

1 Breath of the Great Dwarf
2 Alkar’s Concoction
3 Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
4 Drunken Master
5 Great Dwarf Armor
6 Great Dwarf Weapon
7 Dwarven Stability
8 Black Powder Mine
9 Light of Deldrimor

10 Stout-hearted?
11 By Urals' Hammer?
12 A Brawling Headbutt?
13 Nosyt's Bite?
14 Low Blow?

Ebon Vanguard Title Track

1. Ebon Battle Standard of Courage
2. Ebon Escape
3. Sneak Attack
4. Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
5. Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom

6. Snow Storm?
7. Marked for Death?
8. Haunted Ground?
9. "Don't Trip!"?

Does anyone know any more skills, because we're still missing 3 Ebon.

Bargamer · Aug 10, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Drunken Master transforms you into Jackie Chan, but 20 years later, all the bones in your body have been broken at least once. Oh, and you have to endure Chris Rock as your Hero for 3 movies. He randomly hexes you, and almost gets you killed all the time, but you JUST CAN'T GET RID OF HIM.

No wonder the Asura are so confident of their intellectual superiority.

Dreikki · Aug 10, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan90

Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.

Yup I know, that's why I said that was a bad joke.

Also, KILLRROOOYY STONEKINN should be a dwarf skill :P

Hikan Trilear · Aug 10, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Are you sure the boxing skills count as PvE only skills? I would think they would be more like the rollerbeetle skills and not really count.